One More Thing

Just one more thing about that bullshit law in Indiana, how come Republicans always complain about Government interference yet are the first to pass laws telling people how to behave??

question

Here is a legitimate question regarding these so called religious freedom laws:

Do your rights to religion trump my rights to not believe?

I ask because you are forcing your religious views on me. And while I will never force anyone to my views, why are you forcing your views on me? Why is your right to believe more important to my right not to believe?

Your religious freedom bills are nothing but a right to discriminate against people who view and act differently from you. No more.

Enjoy

So the first Republican to enter the 2016 Presidential race, Ted Cruz, wasn't even born in the United States. Where is the birth certificate??

who hates america

So continuously being toward how President Obama hates America despite doing everything he can to bring peace and turn the economy around despite Republicans blocking everything he does.

I bring you this with the talks with Iran

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/03/iran-foreign-minister-gives-gop-senators

Republicans are disgusting and show many times over how THEY hate America.

Sad

I"m in a heated discussion on facebook about Josh Hamilton of the Anaheim Angels ( I refuse to say Los Angeles). One thing I always preach is we are all responsible for the decisions we make. What people are claiming is how it's genetics or brianwaves or bullshit like that.

You chose to take drugs, you chose to drink you chose to gamble you chose to eat you chose to smoke.. It's the willpower of that INDIVIDUAL PERSON to be responsible for your actions and face consequences of them

Bottom line is Josh Hamilton made a choice. Plain and simple. Josh Hamilton chose cocaine over his wife and 3 children. Josh Hamilton was brave enough to turn himself in but that doesn't change what he did.

He deserves the most severe punishment.

Really??

Congrats Republicants, you are showing your hatred toward President Obama is more important then keeping the United States safe. Way to go.

Lies Lies and more damn Lies

So Bill O Reilly was caught in a lie. Much like Brian Williams, Williams, rightfully, was suspended from NBC and might never be the same in terms of his career.

Will the same happen to O Reilly?? Doubt it. You see it's ok for right wing media members to lie all the want. They face no consequences for it. (again myth of the liberal media) and it's a crime. Because there are standards. Bill O is a liar and should be punised

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/02/why-bill-oreilly-will-skate

Who is Diverse??

I'm going to say this cause I always am trying to be honest. One thing I've always talked about on this site is diversity. Normally done by Democrats. But looking at the contenders in 2016 I think the Republicans, as wrong on their views as they are, have a more diverse field then Democrats.

Taking a look,
Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio: One Canadian and one Latino
Ben Carson African Amiercan
Carly Fiorina and Sarah Palin, Women
Plus the standard Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Lindsey Graham etc.

Democrats are offering nothing diverse next year.

Shame on them.

An Open Discussion

With the murder of 3 Muslim students by an atheist this week I wanted to discuss religion. You see I hate when people (mainly Christians in this country) force their religious views upon everyone and what they think goes and if you disagree your, in their eyes, stupid.

That being said what this jackass did is wrong. Murder based on people's religious viewpoints should not be tolerated in any way shape or form. I hope the psychopath gets whatever hell he deserves.

If Only

If only the people who lied us into the Iraq War were as accountable as Brian Williams. If only George Bush, Dick Cheney, Colin Powell and everyone else faced trial for War Crimes, If only.

A simple choice

I have a  simple question to anyone out there with children:

Do you love your kids??

Cause if you do, there should be no hesitation to get your kids vaccinated. None what so ever.

If you don't love your kids then by all means risk them getting sick.

Honest

So President Obama speaks honestly about religion and the right has a melt down

Truth hurts huh

http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/02/06/3620402/ignoring-christian-violence-isnt-very-christian/

Really

http://crooksandliars.com/2015/01/our-god-wins-bobby-jindal-says-hate-group

It's idiots like Bobby Jindal is why I am not religious. There are too many morons who really don't know anything about religion who claim they know everything.

Fact is his god is no different then anyone else's. None. There are too many intolerant people like him who think they know what is best for everyone when in reality they know nothing!

Why

Why is it after tonight's State of the Union Republicans are allowed multiple responses?? They get their standard and a tea party. And despite the claims the tea party people all run as Republicans. Imagine the outrage if Democrats wanted that?

Remember

With the talk from the right (as always) about how in their world only Muslims are terrorists, I think we need to remember a few terrorist attacks done by right wing and Christian leaning folks

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/americas-10-worst-terror-attacks-by-christian-fundamentalist-and-far-right-extremists/

So we need to remember who are terrorists and how much stupidity is done in the name of religions.

Assault

Is this not, by definition, assault with intent to injure??

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/pastor-i-punched-a-kid-as-hard-as-i-could-for-not-taking-the-lord-serious/

Arrest this sick individual but priests are sick by nature since they molest kids

Remember

Remember the tire predictions Republicans made??

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2015/01/01/3607416/4-things-2015-obama-reelected/

Wrong on all of them

the Company You Keep

"Obama pals around with terrorist" remember that from the election cycle?? I sure do. What the right did was try to denounce the company the then candidate keeps.

Now I bring you to this

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/30/1354722/-David-Duke-hearts-Steve-Scalise-and-Scalise-compares-the-League-of-Women-Voters-to-the-KKK

So when I say racism this is just the latest example.

Double Standard

So I'd like to point out the double standard Republicans have when it comes to Policemen and Policewomen being murdered.

Fox, predictably, is quick to blame the President like in cases like the tragedy that happened in New York saying how he "inflames" issue (without of course giving examples)

Yet does anyone remember over the summer when in Las Vegas two policemen were killed by people associated with their hero Cliven Bundy?? Yeah it wasn't mentioned much then but to remind you how disgusting these so called people are here is a refresher

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/12/22/fox-news-double-standard-for-right-wing-cop-kil/201978

Cowards

So Sony caved when they decided not to release the movie the Interview. Stupid idea, They are nothing but cowards who caved to terrorists.

About Time

Kudos to President Obama for finally trying to normalize relations with Cuba. It's been a long time coming.

And for those who say we shouldn't, would you say we should have no relations with countries like China and Vietnam??

It's Simple

With the disgusting revelations how the United States tortured prisoners of war if we want to restore credibility we need to put those who authorized, and conducted the torture need to be arrested and put on trial for war crimes.

So

With the release of the report on torture and the worry about retaliation cause of it I wonder if you are worried about problems why did they bother to torture to begin with

Good question

How come no one wants to talk about the Christian Terrorists?? Or as I call them the American Talliban

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/12/04/3599271/austin-shooter-christian-extremism/

Good Idea

http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/12/03/fox-hosts-agree-requiring-a-test-before-you-vot/201749

Good idea. Fox wants voters tested. Start with their viewers :)

To Respond

I would like to respond to a post a friend of mine put on facebook asking why she is called a racist because he disagrees with the President.

To answer I would like to respond in the following: between 2000 and 2008 I was told I hate America because I dare questioned George Bush. I was supposed to follow him blindly. If you don't like being called names well look in the mirror because you were doing the exact same thing.

Pay Attention

I hope you were paying attention to this election cycle. Especially with the so-called liberal media. For weeks all I heard from from CNN, MSNBC was how the GOP was going to win (sorry Fox isn't media they are just shills for the right wing). All I heard on local "news" was how the GOP was going to win. That's it.

If the media is liberal you are high.

This is what they want

This is why I will always call Republicans Hypocrites...

They want id's for you to vote (which is illegal cause it's a poll tax)

Yet they are against background checks for guns

And they are for people donating to their campaigns annoymously.

Double standard much??

Really

Who says there is a difference between Christians and the Talliban

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/religious-zealot-nearly-beheads-teen-witch-after-watching-christian-videos-police/

disgusting even more

How come Republicans are so quick to send soldiers to war yet they hate them when they return? Latest example I present

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/26/1338577/-Attention-Michael-Savage-PTSD-is-not-a-weakness

this should disgust everyone

More proof

You should be ashamed of yourself if you endorse this shit. More proof how Republicans hate the people who's right it is to vote

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/20/1337919/-With-voter-ID-on-hold-in-Wisconsin-Republicans-call-for-vigilantes

Really??

So Republicans are blocking President Obama's nominee for Surgeon General because he is anti gun. Which as I've mentioned many times is only used to take lives. Which isn't healthy last I checked.  Now a Surgeon General would be nice to have with the Ebola scare that's happening right now.

But that doesn't stop idiots like Ted Cruz

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/ted-cruz-gop-blocked-obamas-surgeon

Life Liberty and the rest

So really who is for life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Life...Republicans are only for life until you are born. After that people are on their own. They don't care. And even though they claim they are pro life, they are usually pro gun which is a method only used to take lives.

Liberty.. Republicans are passing laws making it hard for basic rights like the right to vote. Why if Republicans want fair elections would they hate people voting??

The pursuit of happiness.. Who is against people who happen to be in the same sex wanting to marry? You guessed it..

So really who wants to hurt America with their basic rights?? Yup Republicans

Amen

Preach on Bernie Sanders. Remind the idiot Republicans who is really responsible for the mess in Iraq

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/10/bernie-sanders-reminds-candy-crowley-isis

Disgusting

Again showing who really hate America Republicans have shut down a voter registration drive on a college campus in North Carolina.

Why do you hate people using THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/north-carolina-college-republican-shuts-down-campus-voter-registration-drive/

Impeach

So called Supreme Court Justice Scalia needs to be impeached immediately. The reason being in his own words he said he doesn't believe in the constitution of the United States.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/antonin-scalia-says-constitution-permits-court-to-favor-religion-over-non-religion/ar-BB75vV4


The Constitution CLEARLY states no law favoring religion.

Asshole

Hypocites

How can someone claim to be pro life if they are pro hunting which takes the lives of animals or if they are in favor of wars which takes the lives of soldiers??


Really you are pro birth cause you don't give a shit about what happens after babies are born

Treason

isn't telling the military to disobey the President treason??

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/09/26/allen-west-tells-military-to-disobey-commander/200916

usual

instead of stating why they dislike someone the right just does the communist marxist shit. Like how they feel about Holder

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/09/25/stalin-the-nazis-and-a-serial-killer-the-villai/200891

Give an argument OR SHUT THE FUCK UP

disgusting

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/09/pittsburgh-cops-tasered-reverend-while-he


Just disgusting. Out of control cops

wondering

Despite what people claim we are not a Christian nation. That being said we have freedom of speech inn this country.

Point is with those facts in mind and we are getting soon with the right complaining about people saying happy holidays why does it matter whether people say merry Christmas or happy hollidays.

Double Standard Much??

I need to remind you about something

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/republican-national-committee-spent-2-000-west-hollywood-strip-club-voyeur-article-1.163989

That shows when the hypocrites at the RNC spent a boatload of money at a strip club. I don't really care except for they are the ones who preach values.

The reason why this is important is Kansas. Their Gov is in trouble in this election. There is a good chance he's going down cause of his horrible policies. That being said the only dirt the GOP has been able to dig up is the Democratic nominee visited a strip club in 1998.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/09/has-grover-norquist-ever-been-strip-club

Sorry if that's the best you got

Can we have it back?

Seriously all these states do is bitch and yet they receive the most money from the Government. Can we get that money back??

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/10-republican-red-states-that-mooch-off-of-coastal-liberal-states/

He needs to go

After watching Roger Goodell's press conference today he needs to resign. What purpose is it to form committees when the solution is simple.

If a player is arrested he is suspended immediately without pay. If he is found innocent or cleared of charges he is to be reinstated with back pay.

Committee is another word for I don't give a shit as long as I make money

throw away the key

This guy needs to be in jail. He's committed many crimes and gets off every time. He is a time bomb.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/12/road-raging-george-zimmerman-faces-no-charges-after-threatening-to-shoot-another-driver/

Bad

http://freenorthcarolina.blogspot.com/2014/09/parents-outraged-over-hitler-george-w.html

As someone who is Jewish (yes I know my last post) I always hate comparisons to nazi, Hitler, anything to that effect. Republicans do it all the time and I truly think they don't understand the magnitude of what that psychopath did.

That being said right or wrong I feel I must be consistent with my views. So I'm equally disgusted to find a teacher had an assignment to compare President Bush to Hitler. That isn't right and that teacher should be punished. Even though if you look at the facts of history there are ties between his family and that "person" but still nothing will ever

http://www.rense.com/general40/bushfamilyfundedhitler.htm

But nothing will compare how the right CONSTANTLY compares President Obama to that freak.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/03/21/conservatives-cant-stop-making-nazi-references/198558

This is why

This is exactly why I hate religion

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/11/witchcraft-obsessed-townsfolk-try-to-drive-out-teen-who-opened-naughty-girls-donut-shop/

I would think there are more important things to be concerned about then a kid who opened a donut shop.

Truer Words

Perhaps the most honest thing I ever heard out of Bill O

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/04/bill-oreilly-jon-stewart-ferguson_n_5764992.html

Getting Stupid

The blame President Obama for everything is getting really stupid

http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/09/10/fox-host-blames-lower-marriage-rates-on-obama-p/200718

oh and we can add

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/andrea-tantaros-ray-rice-obama

Really

So the right attacks President Obama for issuing executive orders (within his right) yet the Republicans in Congress refuse to bring things up for votes (you know, THEIR JOB)

Wonder why nothing gets done??

The real problem

So Los Angeles wants to have a lottery type system to try to encourage people to vote. I have a few ideas to remedy that.

I've said it before I'll say it again. I think the right to vote is our most sacred right. To me there is no more honor then voting. That's why I'm hard on people who vote to restrict voting. AKA most recently the Supreme Court.

First not so many propositions. Really most of them should be settled in Sacramento.but lazy people there don't do the work.

Second there are too many elections. 3 sometimes 4 a year. There should be a  primary, then general election. a 3rd if a runoff is necessary

Third ads. There are too many ads. There should be a limit. I'm already hearing ads about a prop in November. It's stupid. And that is thanks to Citizens United.

Fourth there needs to be people we can have faith in. Usually the choices are between the lesser of two evils. People who instead of tell us what they want to do they attack the other person. Then they get to office and do nothing.That is a turnoff

Sounds like Isis

Wow he sounds exactly like Isis

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/05/duck-dynasty-star-urges-christians-to-convert-atheist-friends-with-nicolas-cage-movie/

Facts

So with the right (naturally) blaming President Obama blaming the beheadings of two journalists who chose to report in dangerous areas of the world, why is it when the same thing happened under Bush no blame was directed by the same people toward him?

Proof..
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/09/05/when-fox-news-didnt-blame-the-gop-president-for/200643

An Idea

Say just a question instead of pulling out the Nazi, Communist, Socialist card like Republicans ALWAYS do, here is the latest

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/03/1326817/-Koch-brothers-grand-strategist-says-raising-the-minimum-wage-is-like-Nazi-Germany


Why don't they make an actual argument about why they don't like things like FAIR WAGES

A sad reminder

With news of the beheading of journalist Steven Sotloff I'm sure we are going to hear, especially from the nuts like insane McCain and Graham, how President Obama needs to shoot first shoot last and shoot them dead.

I think something needs to be said about choice which is a consistent cry from the right wing. He made a choice to report from that reason. Sadly there were consequences based on that choice. But before President Obama goes in guns blazing what about the personal choice Sotloff made??

A Reminder

With the right yearning for a Putin type leader I think we need a reminder who he is. Ed Shultz did that

http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/08/27/msnbcs-ed-schultz-reminds-conservatives-fawning/200574

NFL TIme

So per my tradition I'm making my NFL predictions. My usual disclaimer If you take my predictions seriously I am not responsible for your error.

NFC East
Philadelphia
Washington
NY Giants
Dallas

NFC South
New Orleans
Tampa Bay
Atlanta
Carolina

NFC North
Green Bay
Chicago
Detroit
Minnesota

NFC West
Arizona
Seattle
San Francisco
St. Louis

AFC East
New England
Miami
NY Jets
Buffalo

AFC South
Indianapolis
Tennessee
Jacksonville
Houston

AFC North
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Baltimore
Cleveland

AFC West
Denver
Kansas City
San Diego
Oakland

Playoffs
NFC Philadelphia, Green Bay,New Orleans, Arizona, Seattle, Chicago
AFC Denver, New England, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Pittsburgh

Super Bowl Indianapolis vs. Green Bay

Winner Indianapolis

reality

Reality of life is it's not always fair. Michael Sam showed in the pre season that he is good enough to play in the NFL. Problem was the team that drafted him, the St. Louis Rams, is very deep on the defensive line which is where Sam played.

So while Sam showed he is good enough, he got cut by the Rams. Hopefully a team will pick him up as he deserves a shot.

Facts

Nice to see Jon Stewart talk facts about Fox News

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/jon-stewarts-powerful-ferguson-segment

How Many More

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/responsible-gun-instructor-shot-and-killed

How many more have to die??

And it wasn't the first time

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/flashback-2008-8-year-old-killed-while

Just A Question

So to those on the right who are calling Michael Brown a "thug" (specifically Jonah Goldberg, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush the drug addict) why exactly did he do to deserve getting killed by that cop Darren Wilson??

Facts are
A) Police accused him of stealing from a store
B) No 911 call was placed from the store
C) Video shows him paying for the items from the store

Even if he did steal from the store, he is entitled to due process from this country. Not to be tried and executed.

So why did he deserve to die??

How Many More

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/another-responsible-gun-owners-kills

How Many More have to die

Disgusting

Leave it to the right wing to attack Robin Williams after he committed suicide

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/12/rush-limbaugh-robin-williams-killed-himself-because-of-a-political-leftist-attitude/

Classless

This Is Why

The exact reason I hate religion.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/10/burn-in-hell-christians-respond-on-facebook-to-al-atheist-with-death-threats-hatred/

No Matter What

I hate racism. No matter who says it. The only way we are ever going to advance as a society is to look past the color of peoples skin or who they want to marry. That being said the spouse of a Democratic Candidate for Judge in CT. is one of the people I detest.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/08/democratic-judicial-candidate-has-white

It's disgusting people still feel this way today.

Double Standard

So I'd like to talk about the NFL'S double standard. You see players like Josh Gordon (deserving) get suspended for drug use, alcohol whatever. And they should

Ray Rice hits his girlfriend gets a slap on the wrist which is disgusting.

Where is Jim Irsay's, owner of the Colts, suspension?? He was arrested during the off season and yet the NFL is completely silent about that..

Double standard much??

who hates America??

http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/08/01/mark-levin-jewish-obama-donors-are-self-haters/200293

So according to RIGHT WING talk show host Mark Levin I hate America for the simple reason I support and have donated to President Obama. Well Mr. Levin I think you are the one who hates America. You see you are the one who doesn't understand how our nation was formed and you are the one who really doesn't follow our constitution.

You hate America.

UGLY

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/rush-limbaugh-ray-rices-spousal-abuse-may

So according to Rush it's ok for a woman to get hit. Stay classy

How Many More

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/27/pregnant-fl-woman-dies-after-being-shot-in-head-by-friend-showing-off-his-gun-collection/

How many more of these have to happen??

LIAR LIAR YOUR PANTS ON FIRE

So Ted Cruz, someone Republicans will probably run in 2016, father said how President Obama wants to take your guns (which he hasn't) and like every other Republican since they cannot make a logical argument for that pulls out the Communist card

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/rafael-cruz-hits-campaign-trail-crazy

Bottom line in no way shape or form has President Obama said that. He wants what the second amendment CLEARLY states which is well-regulated militia. Key words WELL-REGULATED

I keep forgetting the Republicans don't believe in the constitution

USC..Classless

For full disclosure I am a UCLA fan. That being said I really have to wonder why USC has said that Pete Carroll is going to be inducted in their hall of fame. I mean really what example has he set? When the going get tough the tough leave for the NFL? I mean there was investigation after penalty by the NCAA under his leadership and he gets rewarded?? Something doesn't seem right about that

No Sympathy

Being liberal this might surprise you but I have no sympathy in what happened with that "botched" execution in Arizona. None. You see I'm a firm believer in a trial system. He was tried, convicted and sentenced. If things didn't go smoothly tough.

To Understand

I gave the Rams a lot of credit for drafting Michael Sam, the first openly gay player to be drafted in the NFL, I hope he's good enough to make the team but if he's not he will be cut. It's that simple.

That being said I'd like to point out comments that former coach Tony Dungy said saying how he would never draft him because he's "too much of a distraction".

I find those comment ironic considering how he has supported Michael Vick who was properly JAILED for dog fighting. He's willing to give him chances yet not Michael Sam who has done nothing wrong.

That is being a hypocrite.

Whatever Happened

Whatever happened to give me your tired, your pour??

The right, again who claim to be bible loving christians, ignore that

how many more

How many more have to die


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/10/missouri-man-shoots-wife-because-he-got-tired-of-her/

Wrong Again

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/07/liz-cheney-birth-control-liberals-say

What to say about Liz Chaney. Liberals think abortion is about choice. Something you refuse to believe. You don't want choice. And really all you want are unwanted babies cause you obviously don't care, based ON YOUR POLICIES, about them after they are born.

You are scum

One More Thing

If you are pro Christian you need to be against guns. Thou shalt not kill. By the way how many more have to get hurt unnecessarily

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/05/11-year-old-ca-boy-hospitalized-after-being-shot-in-chest-by-14-year-old-boy/

You're WRONG

so for those conservatives (Robert on this site) who have claimed that this is a "Christian Nation" obviously have either no concept why we were founded or they must hate it. Either way. You want proof how WE ARE NOT DETERMINED TO BE A CHRISTIAN NATION I present quotes from the people who founded it:

1. “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

2. “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792
3. “We have abundant reason to rejoice that in this Land the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition… In this enlightened Age and in this Land of equal liberty it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States.”
~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the members of the New Church in Baltimore, January 27, 1793

4. “The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”
~John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” 1787-1788

5. “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

6. “Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.”
~Founding Father John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” (1787-88)

7. “We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society.”
~Founding FatherJohn Adams, letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785

8. “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Baptists of Danbury, Connecticut, 1802

9. “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

10. “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

11. “I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799

12. “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813

13. “Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual.

State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society. We have solved … the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in a speech to the Virginia Baptists, 1808

14. “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814,

15. “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
~Founding Father James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman, “Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion”

16. “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
~Founding Father James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

17. “Every new and successful example of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance.”
~Founding Father James Madison, letter, 1822

18. “Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.”
~Founding Father James Madison; Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical
Endowments

19. “It is only when the people become ignorant and corrupt, when they degenerate into a populace, that they are incapable of exercising the sovereignty. Usurpation is then an easy attainment, and an usurper soon found. The people themselves become the willing instruments of their own debasement and ruin. Let us, then, look to the great cause, and endeavor to preserve it in full force. Let us by all wise and constitutional measures promote intelligence among the people as the best means of preserving our liberties.”
~Founding Father James Monroe, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1817

20. “When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obligated to call for help of the civil power, it’s a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.”
~Founding Father Benjamin Franklin, letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780

21. “Manufacturers, who listening to the powerful invitations of a better price for their fabrics, or their labor, of greater cheapness of provisions and raw materials, of an exemption from the chief part of the taxes burdens and restraints, which they endure in the old world, of greater personal independence and consequence, under the operation of a more equal government, and of what is far more precious than mere religious toleration–a perfect equality of religious privileges; would probably flock from Europe to the United States to pursue their own trades or professions, if they were once made sensible of the advantages they would enjoy, and were inspired with an assurance of encouragement and employment, will, with difficulty, be induced to transplant themselves, with a view to becoming cultivators of the land.”
~Founding Father Alexander Hamilton: Report on the Subject of Manufacturers December 5,
1791

22. “In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and both by precept and example inculcated on mankind.”
~Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists (1771)

23. “That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forebearance, love, and charity towards each other.”
~Founding Father George Mason, Virginia Bill of Rights, 1776

24. “It is contrary to the principles of reason and justice that any should be compelled to contribute to the maintenance of a church with which their consciences will not permit them to join, and from which they can derive no benefit; for remedy whereof, and that equal liberty as well religious as civil, may be universally extended to all the good people of this commonwealth.”
~Founding Father George Mason, Virginia Declaration of Rights, 1776

25. “A man of abilities and character, of any sect whatever, may be admitted to any office or public trust under the United States. I am a friend to a variety of sects, because they keep one another in order. How many different sects are we composed of throughout the United States? How many different sects will be in congress? We cannot enumerate the sects that may be in congress. And there are so many now in the United States that they will prevent the establishment of any one sect in prejudice to the rest, and will forever oppose all attempts to infringe religious liberty. If such an attempt be made, will not the alarm be sounded throughout America? If congress be as wicked as we are foretold they will, they would not run the risk of exciting the resentment of all, or most of the religious sects in America.”
~Founding Father Edmund Randolph, address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June
10, 1788

26. “I never liked the Hierarchy of the Church — an equality in the teacher of Religion, and a dependence on the people, are republican sentiments — but if the Clergy combine, they will have their influence on Government”
~Founding Father Rufus King, Rufus King: American Federalist, pp. 56-57

27. A general toleration of Religion appears to me the best means of peopling our country… The free exercise of religion hath stocked the Northern part of the continent with inhabitants; and altho’ Europe hath in great measure adopted a more moderate policy, yet the profession of Protestantism is extremely inconvenient in many places there. A Calvinist, a Lutheran, or Quaker, who hath felt these inconveniences in Europe, sails not to Virginia, where they are felt perhaps in a (greater degree).”
~Patrick Henry, observing that immigrants flock to places where there is no established religion, Religious Tolerance, 1766

28. “No religious doctrine shall be established by law.”
~Founding Father Elbridge Gerry, Annals of Congress 1:729-731

29. “Knowledge and liberty are so prevalent in this country, that I do not believe that the United States would ever be disposed to establish one religious sect, and lay all others under legal disabilities. But as we know not what may take place hereafter, and any such test would be exceedingly injurious to the rights of free citizens, I cannot think it altogether superfluous to have added a clause, which secures us from the possibility of such oppression.”
~Founding Father Oliver Wolcott, Connecticut Ratifying Convention, 9 January 1788

30. “Some very worthy persons, who have not had great advantages for information, have objected against that clause in the constitution which provides, that no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. They have been afraid that this clause is unfavorable to religion. But my countrymen, the sole purpose and effect of it is to exclude persecution, and to secure to you the important right of religious
liberty. We are almost the only people in the world, who have a full enjoyment of this important right of human nature. In our country every man has a right to worship God in that way which is most agreeable to his conscience. If he be a good and peaceable person he is liable to no penalties or incapacities on account of his religious sentiments; or in other words, he is not subject to persecution. But in other parts of the world, it has been, and still is, far different. Systems of religious error have been adopted, in times of ignorance. It has been the interest of tyrannical kings, popes, and prelates, to maintain these errors. When the clouds of ignorance began to vanish, and the people grew more enlightened, there was no other way to keep them in error, but to prohibit their altering their religious opinions by severe persecuting laws. In this way persecution became general throughout Europe.”
~Founding Father Oliver Ellsworth, Philip B Kurland and Ralph Lerner (eds.), The Founder’s Constitution, University of Chicago Press, 1987, Vol. 4, p.
638

31. “Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law. Take away the law-establishment, and every religion re-assumes its original benignity.”
~Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man, 1791

32. “God has appointed two kinds of government in the world, which are distinct in their nature, and ought never to be confounded together; one of which is called civil, the other ecclesiastical government.”
~Founding Father Isaac Backus, An Appeal to the Public for Religious Liberty, 1773

33. “Congress has no power to make any religious establishments.”
~Founding Father Roger Sherman, Congress, August 19, 1789

34. “The American states have gone far in assisting the progress of truth; but they have stopped short of perfection. They ought to have given every honest citizen an equal right to enjoy his religion and an equal title to all civil emoluments, without obliging him to tell his religion. Every interference of the civil power in regulating opinion, is an impious attempt to take the business of the Deity out of his own hands; and every preference given to any religious denomination, is so far slavery and bigotry.”
~Founding Father Noah Webster, calling for no religious tests to serve in public office, Sketches of American Policy, 1785

35. “The legislature of the United States shall pass no law on the subject of religion.”
~Founding Father Charles Pinckney, Constitutional Convention, 1787

And really you are nothing but phonies anyway. I'm no fan of religion but I'm sure the bible preaches about helping man loving thy neighbor but all the right wing conservatives want to do is literally kill them. They don't care

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/07/04/35-founding-father-quotes-conservative-christians-will-hate/

Facts don't lie

Here are a few facts about America Republicants hate

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/04/1311570/-Independence-Day-Special-A-Dozen-Facts-About-America-Conservatives-Would-Like-You-to-Forget?detail=facebook

Happy

Hope everyone has a happy safe Fourth of July. Remember why this is our most important holiday.

Just wondering

So with the Supreme Court saying your religious beliefs trump everything else does that mean I can feed people to lions cause that's what my religious beliefs are?? Or I can shoot up a bunch of people cause my religious beliefs say so (to those monitoring this site this is hypothetical. I hate guns)

I mean that is exactly what the Supreme Court said yesterday

No More People

We the people..Remember that?? Apparently the Supreme Court doesn't. Unless you are a business. Big business. Every time they win with this disgusting court.

Citizens?? Not so much.

They gut the constitution and it's time THE SUPREME COURT GETS IMPEACHED

About Time

About time people stand up to the people who lied to get us to invade Iraq.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/29/nation-editor-stuns-architect-of-catastrophe-bill-kristol-join-iraqi-army-if-you-want-war/

KUDOS

This is responsible

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/29/firearms-dealer-shoots-woman-while-teaching-concealed-carry-safety-at-pa-gun-show/

This is a "responsible" gun owner

Hypocrisy

So the continued hypocrisy on the right considering voting right and the Republicans lack of caring by passing voter laws THAT PROHIBIT PEOPLE FROM VOTING I present this

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/24/wisconsin-republican-donor-busted-for-voting-5-times-in-gov-scott-walkers-recall-election/

REPUBLICANS AND FRAUD! What a shock

All

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/23/georgia-gop-candidate-jody-hice-muslims-not-protected-by-the-first-amendment/

This Jody Hice, candidate (GOP OF COURSE) in Georgia doesn't think Muslims are protected by the first amendment, which last I checked WAS FREEDOM OF RELIGION!

Freedom of religion applies TO ALL RELIGION NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OF THEM.

FUCK YOU

Arrest Him

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/06/bobby-jindahl-promotes-hostile-takeover

It's very simple, Bachman, Palin, Jindahl, Rush, so many others have openly called for a campaign of violence against the government. It's called treason. They should all be arrested immediately

Let Me See if I understand this

The GOP, which had no problems with funding a war we will pay forever, the GOP who doesn't care if soldiers die based on lies by the President, Vice President, Sec. of State, Sec. of Defense, doesn't care if the soldiers rot after they return.

Stay Classy

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/22/1307971/-GOP-Sen-Ron-Johnson-It-costs-too-much-to-fund-the-VA?showAll=yes

The media is what??

If you have any doubt the media is purely right wing I bring you what's happening now in Iraq. Instead of bringing on people who, were and are against the war and any more troops in Iraq we get nothing but Cheney, McCain, Rumsfeld, and anyone and everyone who gave us the lies and deceit in the original occupation 10 years ago.

The media IS IN NO WAY LEFT WING

Please for the love of god SHUT UP

I think John McCain needs a history lesson

The Bush Administration LIED UNDER OATH to get us into Iraq. He said "there were weapons of mass destruction" we had no business to be there to begin with. That is the facts. We were told we would be greeted as liberators, we were told the oil in Iraq would pay for the war. We were completely lied to.

Soldiers lives were lost based on lies and ego.

That being said with the current unrest in Iraq John McCain SHUT THE FUCK UP ASSHOLE

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/06/13/1306691/-There-s-no-other-way-to-put-this-Sen-McCain-shut-up

How Many More

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/06/10/police-respond-to-report-shooting-at-oregon-high-school/

How many more have to die??

Two things

First the usual how many more have to die before we can enforce the "WELL REGULATED MILITIA" which the constitution says after the latest shootout in Las Vegas.

But I also wonder how many more of these shooting until people like Sean Hannity and druggie Limbaugh need to be held as accessories to crimes?

I ask because if you recall a few weeks ago where they made a hero out of Cliven Bundy, who was basically a nutjob who refused to pay millions of dollars of fees HE LEGALLY OWED THE GOVERNMENT for his cattle grazing on Government land, the right made a hero out of him even though he is clearly a criminal.

So what happened Sunday in Vegas is the two shooters spend time on Bundy's ranch just outside of Vegas, heard nothing about hatred of the Government, and shot two police officers who were just there having lunch and a person who was doing their business at a Wall Mart.

Congrats Hannity, Rush, blood is on your hands.

No Soul or compassion

I am not a religious person. I feel more harm is done in the name of god then anything else. And I also feel while people praise god for everything that is good in their lives, why don't they blame god for everything that is bad?? Shouldn't it go both ways??

That being said these so called right wing religious assholes who ALWAYS pull out the nazi card absolutely disgust me. The latest Tony Perkins

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/06/tony-perkins-christians-forced-to-bake-cakes-for-gays-like-forcing-jews-into-nazi-ovens/

He actually compares Christians having to bake cakes for homosexuals to Jewish people being forced into nazi ovens.

Disgusting.

They can't win  an argument logically so the right ALWAYS pulls out the nazi card.

What happened

So the right is attacking a POW who was released in Afghanistan. Disgusting. Would the right attack when a trade was arranged in the release of John McCain in Vietnam? IT WAS THE EXACT SAME THING!

You are disgusting trolls.

No it wasn't

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/05/iowa-republican-senate-candidate-calls

So a candidate in Iowa called last weeks mass shooting "an accident".

No it wasn't. It was a thought out plan by someone who has mental issues that was still easily able to purchase guns cause of terrorist organizations like the NRA who don't want rules AND ENCOURAGE THIS BEHAVIOR

Simple

It's very simple. If you are pro life you cannot be pro gun. Guns do NOTHING BUT TAKE LIVES! If you claim to be pro life and are pro gun you are nothing but a liar.

Has to Happen

I know it won't but this has to happen:

The NRA needs to be declared a terrorist organization. The reason being is they do nothing but promote death and destruction of Americans.

When he's right he's right

I'm probably the last person to give Bill O'Reilly credit but he deserves it this once

http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2014/05/oreilly-and-rove-argue-over

He wouldn't let Rove place the full blame of the VA situation on Obama as Rove was trying to do. O'Reilly RIGHTFULLY pointed out this problem clearly existed under Bush.

So kudos to Bill O'Reilly

You First

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/05/18/dick-cheney-wants-hillary-clinton-held-accountable-for-benghazi-terror-attacks/

So Cheney thinks Hillary Clinton needs to be held accountable for the banghazi attacks.

You first Mr. Cheney

You and Bush were told a terrorist attack was coming AND CHOSE TO IGNORE IT

2016

So while everyone is speculating about 2016 I've tried to stay out of it since well it's only speculation at this point. I'd  like to talk about Jeb Bush who is probably going to run.

All Democrats will do if he does (and probably Republicans in the primary) will say is he's like his brother whose pollicies ruined this country and sent us to a great depression. That's a bad idea for the simple reason that all Bush would say is he isn't his brother. Either way let the catfights begin as I get the popcorn.